Derby News Network Power Rankings - October 2009
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2 E | 2009 9-1 2008 10-4 |
11/14 vs [TBA] Winner of Bout 2 | For the first time since DNN's Power Rankings debuted in February, a new team takes the top spot. Philly's Liberty Belles unseated reigning powerhouse Gotham in a truly nailbiting 1-point victory in the East Region Championship bout, widely considered the greatest game yet played in modern roller derby. | ||||
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1 E | 2009 6-1 2008 10-0 |
11/13 @ Detroit | Although Philly snapped Gotham's unprecedented 18-bout winning streak, the incredibly tough team from New York City has lost none of their long-held shock and awe. While they won't benefit from a first-round bye at Nationals, they're certainly still a prime contender to take the 2009 WFTDA title and become the organization's first repeat champion. | ||||
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1 NC | 2009 9-1 2008 12-4 |
10/17 vs Rose City | Windy City's recent one-point loss to Philly looks more impressive in light of Philly's aforementioned giant-killing by the same margin. After dominating their regional tournament -- their closest game was a 150-56 romp over Madison -- Windy City is clearly well positioned to compete for the top spot in November. | ||||
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1 SC | 2009 9-1 2008 10-4 |
11/14 @ [TBA] Winner of Bout 1 | Since June, the top four teams have met in three different games, with victory margins of 8 points, 1 point, and 1 point. Let's be frank - these teams are basically impossible to rank against each other, as they're playing so closely. Texas lost to Gotham by the larger of three very small margins, so we're putting them at number 4. In practical terms, though, there's a remarkably competitive group riding the top of the list today, which should make for several stellar bouts at Nationals. |
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1 W | 2009 9-0 2008 6-2 |
11/14 @ [TBA] Winner of Bout 2 | In their first WFTDA tournament, the Cosa Nostra Donnas defeated all challengers by fairly comfortable margins -- all the more impressive in what has become the most competitive region in the WFTDA. Oly brings a 12-bout winning streak into Nationals, but barring a big surprise from Detroit, they'll get their first taste of the pinnacle against Gotham in the quarterfinals. | ||||
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5 E | 2009 9-8 2008 9-2 |
11/13 @ Madison | At East Regionals, Boston decisively defeated perennial heartbreaker Carolina, then endured a thumping by Gotham to upset Charm City in the 3rd place bout, thus earning their first trip to nationals. Boston rises to their highest level yet in DNN's Power Rankings. | ||||
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8 W | 2009 5-5 2008 12-4 |
11/13 @ Houston | Rocky Mountain makes a giant jump in the rankings this month, moving up ten places to #7 on the strength of a stellar performance at regionals. While they've been a constant presence in the teens, recent transfers to the team seem to have filled in the final pieces of what was already a very strong combination. They'll need it, because looming just beyond a first round meeting with Houston at Nationals lies a quarterfinal bout against new #1 Philly. |
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2 W | 2009 9-2 2008 4-8 |
11/13 @ Kansas City | Along with their Western Regionals co-host and crosstown rivals Rocky Mountain, Denver has also scored an invite to Nationals, marking the first time two WFTDA teams from the same city have progressed so far into the post-season. | ||||
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3 W | 2009 5-2 2008 6-4 |
10/17 @ Windy City | Rose City's 2009 Western Regional Tournament appearance ended as did its 2007 and 2008 turns, with a narrow defeat in the quarterfinals taking the Portland team out of the running for a trip to Nationals. They retain their top-10 Power Rankings placement due to their evident strength, though this is surely cold comfort in the absence of a ticket to Philly. | ||||
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4 W | 2009 5-7 2008 3-3 |
TBD | Rat City advanced to the Western Regional semifinals in a tense come-from-behind victory over Bay Area, who seemed poised to finally deal the Seattle team a defeat but were unable to seal the deal. Rat City is now 5-0 against the B.A.D. Girls, but losses to Oly and Denver left them without a berth at Nationals for the first time in WFTDA history. | ||||
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3 E | 2009 13-5 2008 9-2 |
TBD | Despite a very aggressive and largely successful season schedule, Charm City's Nationals hopes were dashed at Eastern Regionals by a plague of injuries to key players just when it mattered most. While they won't be advancing, they remain formidable on the track, and just barely slip from the top 10. | ||||
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2 SC | 2009 8-3 2008 5-2 |
11/13 @ Denver | 2007's WFTDA National Champions performed solidly at South Central Regionals, and seem to be regaining some of the cohesiveness lost in recent retirements from the team. | ||||
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3 NC | 2009 7-2 2008 9-7 |
10/10 @ Detroit | Ranked #3 nationally not much more than two years ago, the Mad Rollin' Dolls have struggled for some time to regain their prior prominence. Strong 2009 performances foreshadowed their upset of Detroit in their North Central Regional semifinal, but Boston will provide a substantial first-round challenge at Nationals. | ||||
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2 NC | 2009 7-4 2008 8-3 |
10/10 vs Madison | Madison surprised Detroit, knocking them off in a nailbiter of a semifinal at North Central Regionals, but a thorough shellacking of Cincinnati gained Detroit a slot at Nationals after a year's absence. A first-round matchup against reigning champion Gotham promises an exciting, and possibly brief, experience for Detroit in Philly. | ||||
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5 W | 2009 5-5 2008 13-3 |
TBD | Of the three bouts they played at Western Regionals, two came down to the last jam, and Bay Area went 1-1 on those results. Unfortunately for their postseason aspirations, the loss came in the quarterfinal, with the B.A.D. Girls unable to get the Rat City monkey off their back. | ||||
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6 W | 2009 5-8 2008 6-3 |
10/17 @ Sacred City | Despite an up and down season, the Albuquerque team put up a solid tournament quarterfinal performance against the West Region's first seed Oly, falling 165-92 before a team that often runs the score up much higher against less sturdy opposition. Duke City's done for 2009, but they're still regarded as the little derby lineup that could. | ||||
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4 E | 2009 4-7 2008 7-5 |
10/17 @ Minnesota | After a long run in the top ten, Carolina suffered a series of setbacks this year, culminating in a 112-40 loss to Boston in the Eastern Regionals quarterfinal, eliminating Carolina from Nationals contention on their home track. | ||||
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- | 2009 8-2 2008 5-7 |
10/17 vs Cincinnati | San Diego has been idle during WFTDA tournament season, but we'll get a fresh reality check on their current capabilities when they host Cincinnati on October 17-18 for a closed-door bitraxual weekend. | ||||
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3 SC | 2009 6-2 2008 4-10 |
11/13 @ Rocky Mountain | Houston earned an invitation to Nationals in one of the most exciting bouts of the 2009 tournament season, defeating Dallas 113-101 in the final jam. However, Dallas fell to South Central's first seed Texas by a score of 285-19 the previous night, underscoring the road ahead of Houston in Philly next month. | ||||
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4 SC | 2009 7-3 2008 3-8 |
TBD | Dallas came within a single jam of advancing to Nationals in the South Central third-place bout with Houston, but couldn't quite close the deal. They return to the DNN Power Rankings on the strength of that performance. | ||||
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4 NC | 2009 9-4 2008 12-7 |
10/17 @ San Diego | Much like Rocky Mountain for most of its history, Cincinnati seems to be about 15% short of a national-contender package. | ||||
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9 NC | 2009 5-4 2008 2-5 |
TBD | Brewcity debuts in the DNN Power Rankings this month on the strength of North Central Regionals defeats of North Star and Burning River. | ||||
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8 NC | 2009 5-3 2008 6-0 |
TBD | After several months' absence, North Star returns to the power rankings on a narrow defeat of crosstown rival Minnesota and a more substantial 85-43 victory over Arch Rival. | ||||
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5 SC | 2009 8-8 2008 3-3 |
TBD | Atlanta debuts on the DNN Power Rankings largely by coming within a single jam of defeating Dallas in the South Central Regional quarterfinals, who in turn came within one jam of defeating Houston for a seat at Nationals. | ||||
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5 NC | 2009 6-7 2008 5-2 |
TBD | Arch Rival keeps a toehold on the power rankings, offsetting an 85-43 consolation round loss to North Star with a narrow 8-point loss to Cincinnati in the quarterfinal round at North Centrals. | ||||
| Key: | |
| E | WFTDA East region |
| W | WFTDA West region |
| NC | WFTDA North Central region |
| SC | WFTDA South Central region |
Comments
Let the outrage begin.
Btw, good show Philly.
WHAT??? IT'S AN OUTRAGE I
WHAT??? IT'S AN OUTRAGE I TELL YOU!!!
!YTICWERB YAY
!OOT NOSIDAM
Refreshing Outrage
I'm outraged that the November Power Rankings aren't out yet. There were less than a dozen bouts involving power ranked teams last month. The November update should have been pretty simple, right?
Fair enough.
They're up.
There's a good reason.
They were waiting for my birthday. Yeah, it's that important.
:D
Dallas
So proud of Dallas. They will get much stronger once major injuries that have been haunting some if the girls are fixed and the team comes together with all the cross town transfers.
Hooray Dirty South!
*does Hammer dance*
THANK YOU!!!!
OMG OMG!! Atlanta is sooo excited to debut!!
Yay Brew Crew!
Happy to see my friends from north of the border (the IL-WI stateline, that is!) make the power ranking!
There's so little daylight between teams #4 and #10ish in North Central (which, of course, made for a really exciting tournament!) that it must have been hard to do an order there.
And so y'all know, their next game is 10/17 in Chicago. Windy City's Second Wind is hosting them in an early bird/ happy hour bout before the WCR All-Stars play Rose City's Wheels of Justice.
xo,
Loco
wow...
this makes me super happy...i can't wait for nationals to play some more amazingly competitive derby. congrats to everyone!!
Robin Drugstores #714 aka Drugs
Oh god...
Texas handily wins South Central and SLIPS two spots?!
I fear for the teams who will play them at Nationals. May god rest their souls.
Without speaking to any
Without speaking to any individual team's talents (everyone impressed the living bejeezus out of me this batch of regionals), it looks to me a lot more like Philly and Windy City went UP two spots, not that Texas dropped two spots. And as they both also went up after winning their region, and DNN specifically said that the largest point margin between the top four teams is 8 points and could go any way at any time, I'm personally OK with this...
Well, if things shake out how
Well, if things shake out how i imagine they might, Texas may be playing both Philly AND Gotham at Nationals, so i don't think God wants any part of that brouhaha whatsoever.
Oh yay, Atlanta!
I'm glad y'all re up here, you've got one of the hardest working teams in the South. And you're the most fun. And you do the Cupid Shuffle oh so well!
"Cincinnati seems to be about
"Cincinnati seems to be about 15% short of a national-contender package"
If that's true, it makes them 85%. Is Cincinnati big enough for two Ocho Cincos?
Make That Three, Norb
Hannah Barbaric sports the #85.
Bill Simmons reported on his blog this past Tuesday that she had filed papers at the Hamilton County Municipal Court to legally change her name to Hannah Ocho Cinco.
I think this means that the US Census will have its hands forced in declaring the Cincinnati-Dayton one metropolitan statistical area, instead of two. In order to handle the growing proportion of Ocho Cincos in the area.
Lou Dobbs is said to be irate.
Actually
Make that Hannah Oucho Cinco.
Child, please
Kiss the baby.
Steel City?
I have to say I'm very surprised not to see Steel City listed. They had an AMAZING showing at Eastern Regionals and have put an absolute smack down on just every Eastern team ranked below them (including mine!).
Steel City and Tampa and No Coast
Agree with Josie 100%.
Steel City showed amazing skills during regionals (as well a discipline on the track). They're definitely one of my new favorite teams and hope to play against them soon.
Also, Tampa showed great promise too. Stealth jammers and smart pack play. Their game against No Coast was extremely close and fun to watch!
No Coast did amazing as well. Their blockers did a great job keeping the pack together while switching from offense to defense.
North Star and Brewcity did good as well.. I would pay to see Brewcity vs Tampa
and No Coast vs North Star.
Brewcity and Tampa met in
Brewcity and Tampa met in Milwaukee in June '08. Result: Brewcity 103, Tampa 79
North Star & No Coast
Just an fyi that we played No Coast back on 4/10/08. North Star 79, No Coast 50.
AAAAAAAAAAAANNNNND!
Omaha played @ No Coast on 4/24 and won 65 -57. Then again @ Omaha on 7/11 and Omaha won 120 - 61.
I would suggest that North Central has arguably the hardest region when those who ranked in regionals 1 - 5, 8, & 9th are all in the power rankings... that make us 28% of the rankings. :)
xoxo
-Ms Misery
On the other hand...
I would suggest that North Central has arguably the hardest region when those who ranked in regionals 1 - 5, 8, & 9th are all in the power rankings... that make us 28% of the rankings. :)
Quite true... but the west is 50% of the top ten. :)
Touche.
And if San Diego was included in the West, they would be 8/25 which is more than NC division. I like to disregard the obvious. :)
Respectfully disagree
I would suggest that North Central has arguably the hardest region when those who ranked in regionals 1 - 5, 8, & 9th are all in the power rankings... that make us 28% of the rankings. :)
xoxo
-Ms Misery
seariosly?
The other sixteen
The problem is cramming 40 teams into 24 slots. We don't have a clue who would be #26 or even #41. Not that this is DNN's fault, but just an issue of space and sensibility of the Power Rankings.
Steel City did a fine job at East. Could they beat Arch Rival? Maybe? The onus is usually on the teams not listed to beat the teams on the list in order to make the ranking.
Data for the 20-somethings
I'm going to leave my opinions out of it... but just giving data from this year (viva la flat track stats!)
Brew City played NorthStar on 9/18 and beat them by 27
Brew City played Burning River on 9/19 and beat them by 10
NorthStar played ARRG on 9/20 and beat them by 42
Cincy played ARRG on 9/18 and beat them by 8
Cincy played Steel City on 8/22 and beat them by 21
Cincy played Burning River in April and beat them by 14
Ft Wayne (didn't make it to NC Regionals) played No Coast in Feb '09 and beat them by 60.
xo,
Loco
I won't give away any DNN
I won't give away any DNN internal debate details, but I will assure you that Steel City was considered heavily. They continue to impress all around and our eyes are peeled.
Steel City
I've been impressed as well. Transfer Kat Von D'Stroya from Detroit sure didn't hurt, and they showed a lot of moxy at Easterns.
Steel's intro alone is
Steel's intro alone is awesome enough to get them in the top 25.
No a surprise
These rankings aren't a surprise to me exept maybe the Steel City thing ? I know it is almost impossible to break through the top ten but I think they have erned there spot !
But way to go Philly !! I am sure though that Gotham won't want that to happen twice . eh ! either way congrats to all !
Hillbilly Hellcat
Dutchland Rollers
RMRG & Denver
Stoked to see Rocky & Denver in the top 10. They definitely deserve the spot.
???
Um. Maybe we are forgetting the Bay Area's 6 point loss to Texas in September? That must be why they are ranked 11 spots apart. Although I have to say, I wouldn't want to be the one ranking these teams! It makes my brain hurt.
Thank you, DNN, for giving us something to bitch about!!!
xo
-Moxxxie
www.wearehellarad.com
BOO
I say BOO to your # 15... our under the radar Texas game was a nail biter. I just think the west coast has more closely matched teams. General outrage and BOO.
We just keep hoping
... that if we give you enough to bitch about, it'll inspire you to launch the "HellaRankings" feature ;)
Seriously, though, we certainly considered the Texas bout, but we had to balance that against your Duke City bout, and Duke City's big loss to KC, and KC's loss to Texas, all of which adds up to one big giant logical error. Sometimes when we run into those, we split the difference; sometimes, we pick and choose which results we think are more relevant.
We've seen a number of cases of teams monkeying with rosters, trying out tactics and lineups, and just generally taking risks in bouts that are scheduled post-seeding but pre-tournament -- take Philly/Charm City as another example. We're definitely inclined to give a lot more creedence to tournament results, even in the consolation rounds, than to "tournament warmup" bouts.
Rosters have been an active topic since the launch of Power Rankings, in no small part because we indicated early on that we aren't going to pay much attention to them. We're going to have a bit more to say on the topic in our year-end Power Rankings roundup, so stay tuned!
Once you're knocked of nationals...
who cares!!!!!!!
I just started training for my heavy drinking season.
Afterparty Rankings
We will totally win Nationals and we won't even be there!!! POW take that Nationalees.
HellaRankings, totally to come, based solely on uniforms, afterparty persona, individual likes/dislikes, city of origin and hair dos in no particular order.
Word
That's it.
Hell yeah.
So down with this.
Important consideration for Hella Rankings
Sin City has two skaters who were hit by cars. Neither while they were roller skating, but one on Chicago's South Side, and the other on a drag-racing track. I love the fantastic ghetto-redneck duality there.
Sweet!
...London Brawling in with a chance then!
Bette Noir
London Rollergirls
(and Angel City before the pretty)
HellaRankings
And names -- don't forget the amazing names. (My favs include Heavy Flo and the still-classic Donna Party ... and a junior league skater named PB&J -- which stands not just for peanut butter & jelly but Pivot, Blocker and Jammer!!!) Now that category may need to be decided by a knockdown dragout.
P.S. I hear that Montreal wins many afterparties due to their European heritage and alcohol absorption. But I would take bets that ANY Florida team wins all leg wrestling contests!!!
YES!
cheers to that.
who cares!!!!!!!
I just started training for my heavy drinking season.
But to win the afterparty, you have to NOT get kicked out
Yepp, Swede is ready to take on Nationals, double Fisting, stickers with stronger glue and Summer Assault by my side!
Moahahahaha...
ignacious!
... that if we give you enough to bitch about, it'll inspire you to launch the "HellaRankings" feature ;)
HOLY CRAP! We're totally on this.
Seriously, though, we certainly considered the Texas bout, but we had to balance that against your Duke City bout, and Duke City's big loss to KC, and KC's loss to Texas, all of which adds up to one big giant logical error. Sometimes when we run into those, we split the difference; sometimes, we pick and choose which results we think are more relevant.
All true. And this, again, is why I wouldn't dare attempt ranking teams in such a logical manner. Hell, after Westerns, Rat City is looking pretty damn good in the HellaRankings based solely on Swede Hurt's wig-stealing antics in the Red Lion hotel bar...
xo
-Moxxxie
www.wearehellarad.com
Wig-stealing
You know it! More to come.... Beer? Wig? Shiny things!?
p.s.
OMG ROCKY MOUNTAIN!!!! Huge jump in rankings totally deserved. Watching those girls play was so inspiring...kinda made me a teeny bit sad I hung up my skates. And what lovely hostesses!!!!
xo
-Moxxxie
www.wearehellarad.com
keep the secret
OMG ROCKY MOUNTAIN!!!! Huge jump in rankings totally deserved. Watching those girls play was so inspiring.!!!!
I second that! don't tell anyone. my favorite thing in the world is to see higher ranked teams cockily save their ringers for the next game and then get disqualified, or play everyone but not take the game as seriously as they should and get killed.
i want everyone to discount rocky mountain so i can again have the pleasure or watching rmrg blow them away. that was rad.
Second Miss Moxxxie and then some
Absolutely, the improvement in Rocky Mountain was truly inspiring - and I'm only a fan! When I saw how they came out in their first bout, the new cohesion and tactical skills and all, it brought tears to my eyes!!!
I have to say, look at Oly Rollers: in two years the dominant team in the bitchin battling West? The new depth and improvements by so many clubs [Steel city, too, wow, and on and on] is amazing. So much has changed in one year. Let alone the last 4. Incredible.
I say, The WFTDA has to move to a four day, full 16 team tournement [4 from each region, two days for the first round of 8 bouts] with no first-round byes for nationals- the depth is getting so good, it is almost not fair to give a team a bye against a team coming off the level of bouts they have to put together at this level.
And no matter what anyone says -- or who wins, or is # 1 or 4 or whatever, for that matter-- Oly vs Gotham is going to be one of the greatest classic match-ups of all time - they are not only great teams, but unbelievably beautiful teams to watch, with very distinctive, contrasting styles.
respect...
... where respect is due: Gotham doesn't play Oly in the first round. Gotham plays Detroit in the first round, while Oly has earned a first-round bye.
I'm as eager as anyone to see Oly face Gotham, and Detroit clearly has a steeeeep hurdle facing them in the form of the defending world champions, there's a reason we actually play the games.
Solid fist.
I cannot wait to watch Detroit-Gotham!
North Central solidarity, yo!
xo,
Loco
I am wondering if anyone, at
I am wondering if anyone, at this stage in the league's evolution, would consider going back to a tournament structure which includes some non-regulation length games. I put four-color Bic pen to paper and figured out that if you had 16 teams from each region, and all but four games were 20 minutes long ((said four games being the two semi-finals games, the finals, and the 3rd place bout)), you could do it in a fairly tidy three days.
Not that anyone asked, but here's my Grand Scheme:
FRIDAY would be all 20 minute games. You would have the first round, which would be eight games total, and be the traditional 1 seed vs. 16 seed, 2 seed vs. 15 seed, etc., structure. Then you would have the entirety of the second round, which would be winner of 1/16 vs. winner 8/9, etc., which would be four games, for the teams who won their first game. Twelve 20-minute games total on Friday.
SATURDAY i would start with the consolation games for the teams that lost in the first round -- so, loser 1/16 vs. loser 8/9, etc. This "consolation bracket" is essentially a battle for ninth place. That would be four games. After this would would be the semi-finals -- if the seedings hold up, that's 1 seed vs. 4 seed and 2 seed vs. 3 seed. Those two games would be regulation. There would also be six more 20-minute games. I won't bore you with the details, but the gist of it is that if you lost your first AND your second game, you are now in a four-team sub-consolation bracket which is a battle for 13th place, and, meanwhile, the teams who lost their first game but won their second game are still in a now four-team bracket battling for 9th place. The teams who won their first game but lost their second game are now in a four-team bracket battling for fifth place. ALTOGETHER that will be ten 20-minute games and two 60-minute games on Saturday.
SUNDAY is totally cut and dried:
15th/16th place game, 13th/14th place game, 11th/12th place game, 9th/10th place game, 7th/8th place game, 5th/6th place game -- all 20 minutes. 3rd/4th place game and 1st/2nd place game would be regulation length -- so, in total, six 20-minute games and two 60-minute games on Sunday.
Although all teams would be guaranteed to play exactly four games AND to have a reasonably conclusive tournament ranking, i assume many teams would not want to travel to play four 20-minute games ((although maybe they could be 30?)), and the league would not want a tournament primarily composed of non-regulation games. However, as a fan, that would be my dream tournament to actually watch.
I've been waiting for this
Yo, Philly, I'm really happy for you, and Imma let you finish, but I just gotta say, Gotham had one of the best WFTDA seasons of all time.
Actually
Actually, I agree with DNN's ranking, but I just had to say that. That being said, looking at their rankings and my own personal predictions for Nats: apparently we're in 100% agreement.
Well, I just gotta ask an unpopular question....
Just re-read through the Philly vs. Gotham bout recap and watched that sweet little end of game clip on the page. My question is....how come no one ever commented on the illegal slide tackle that Persephone used to take out Suzy which in turn bought Philly that little bit of daylight? (besides Justice)
"Gotham stole a 1-0 to follow, but things turned in Philly's favor when Gotham's jammer Suzy Hotrod was taken down on the opening lap by a trip from Persephone and Mo Pain lapped Suzy twice in the course of of a 10-0, putting Philly up 84-81 with 1:43 on the clock."
And...was that what people would consider a "smart" penalty? Just wondering because it helped them most certainly get closer to their win. (okay fine, that's two questions) Like I said, sure to be unpopular but I think warrants dialogue. Thanks!
hmm...
Just re-read through the Philly vs. Gotham bout recap and watched that sweet little end of game clip on the page. My question is....how come no one ever commented on the illegal slide tackle that Persephone used to take out Suzy which in turn bought Philly that little bit of daylight? (besides Justice)
Really good question....
since you said slide tackle
well according to the rules a slide tackle is an expulsion.
6.15 FIGHTING
Expulsion or Suspension
The following egregious acts will be automatic game expulsions, even if not during a fight, and can be punished as multi-game suspensions (see Section 7.5.2.2). Expulsions will be issued for a conscious attempt to commit any of the following egregious acts, whether or not the attempt was successful. (e.g. A swing-and-a-miss).
6.15.13 Slide Tackling an opponent
and wasn't a boston player expelled for a slide tackle during the boston v carolina bout?
it was a very interesting turn of events in that jam, you are correct rosie. i'm sure persephone did not intend to slide tackle, but the rules makes no mention of intent with regards to slide tackling.
Intent
Well, the rule does say "conscious attempt", which implies intent...
My intention was to execute a
My intention was to execute a clean, effective block. I attempted to block Suzy Hotrod in the thigh area, and lost my footing during the block. Suzy then tripped over my legs. I was called out on a major trip.
I do not practice or teach performing egregious, dangerous blocks to gain an advantage.
Persephone, Philly
Brilliant.
Yo, Philly, I'm really happy for you, and Imma let you finish, but I just gotta say, Gotham had one of the best WFTDA seasons of all time.
Just needs a Beyonslay reference to be perfect.
Oly was robbed
How is the team that handily won "the most competitive region in the WFTDA" only ranked at number 5? In my personal power rankings I would put Oly ahead of both Texas and Windy. While Texas and Windy are great teams, they won their regional tourneys against far lesser talent that Oly had to face at westerns. I guess we will find out in a month...
Looking forward to some roller derby in Philly and breakfast at Sabrinas!!!
But alas, if Oly is to meet
But alas, if Oly is to meet Windy or Texas they will have to get through Gotham first...just saying... ;)
Agreed
But alas, if Oly is to meet Windy or Texas they will have to get through Gotham first...just saying... ;)
True. Can't wait. I think everyone in the top five is a coin flip-just trying to make a point that Oly came out of a VERY tough region. I'll be rooting for you and the Goths in that one though!
1, 2, 3 vs the WEST on DAY 2!
IMHO, these are the bouts that everyone is waiting for, including the girls that are training even harder now knowing the possibility of these bouts happening.
Day 2 could look like this.
Gotham vs Oly
Philly vs Rocky Mt
Windy vs Denver
Not to leave anyone out but to see the WEST take on these powerhouse 1,2,3 on Day 2 is exciting! I smell upset(s) on Day 2!
Detroit for 200$ Alex
But alas, if Oly is to meet Windy or Texas they will have to get through Gotham first...just saying... ;)
Gotham does have to play Detroit first... i mean we play the games for a reason, no?
But the only thing I would like to see more than Detroit playing Oly is Gotham :)
Touche
We're really looking forward to play you girls...it's been 2 years since we last played and so much has changed since then. It will be a great game I am sure!
What she said!
See above!
Detroit vs Oly sounds like fun to me...just sayin'
But alas, if Oly is to meet Windy or Texas they will have to get through Gotham first...just saying... ;)
*Ahemcoughahem*...Detroit may have a say in this match up happening...or not. I truly look forward to seeing these match ups!
the description for TX says it all
Spots 1-4 were unsplittable:
"Since June, the top four teams have met in three different games, with victory margins of 8 points, 1 point, and 1 point.
Let's be frank - these teams are basically impossible to rank against each other, as they're playing so closely."
Putting Oly up at #5 is the best you can do apart from that.
I guess I'm spoiled: used to high western region scores/blowouts. When 1st place only beats the 4th place team by 30, I consider that a pretty narrow win. (esp. when the 3rd place team beats them by 76 the next day).
We definitely have some "clumping" going on - DEFINITELY looking forward to seeing what happens on the national stage!
This is the same reason DNN
This is the same reason DNN can't include teams who haven't played any of the Power Ranked teams (like London, for example). DNN has said that Oly has defeated other PowerRanked teams so they're included on the list but they'll need to 1) play out of region and 2) play one of the teams higher than them to move up. The top 4 teams have all played one another enough times for DNN to fairly say where they stand. Oly hasn't yet, so I don't see any sketchery here.
Number 1
I think it's strange that you rank philly above gotham, when Gotham has been undefeated for 2 years and Philly beat them by 1 point. Last year Philly came close to beating Gotham in eastern regionals and then Gotham blew them out of the water at nationals. Additionally, Philly just lost to a team ranked number 11 in August.
Month-to-month
These are month-to-month rankings and Philly beat #11 between August and now. It's also been largely discussed that the time period between post-ranking and pre-tourney (ie - the month of August), teams were definately trying new things - and Philly sat 6 big players in that August game. Fact is, they proved what they needed to, when they needed to most - which was at regionals. I don't see why they wouldn't be ranked #1 this month - this isn't saying they are the best team in the nation for the entire year - just this particular month.
and more to the point:
If two given teams meet today, which one do we think is more likely to win? Thanks, Holly, for again providing us with our monthly opportunity to link to the FAQ.
Although, as we pointed out in the Texas blurb, it is basically impossible right now for us to make that call for any matchup between the top four. Far as we can tell, they're about as even as even can be. Given that, hey, Philly won when it mattered. We believe they can do it again, so they're our pick... today :)
Rankings, Spankings
Ranked 1-5 is cool. But all I know is the WEST has an opportunity to spank 1,2,3 from last years Nationals on Saturday Nov 14th. The gauntlet has been thrown down!
*don't take me serious this is all in good fun.
1 point.
So would you still rank Philly higher today knowing that Mo only scored 9 points in the last jam with Suzy Hotrod instead of 10 points, actually putting the score at a tie? Just curious.
http://www.derbynewsnetwork.com/2009/09/philly_upsets_gotham_eastern_reg...
Not enough data.
Well, to answer your question, we'd have to know the result of the theoretical overtime that would have ensued, right?
Steel City is honored to even
Steel City is honored to even be considered for the Power Rankings and we will continue to work & skate hard in the 2010 season.
Thank you for all your love and support.
I'm super stoked to play Carolina in November even if it isn't sanctioned!
Deserving of the noteworthiness
Steel City is honored to even be considered for the Power Rankings and we will continue to work & skate hard in the 2010 season.
Thank you for all your love and support.
I'm super stoked to play Carolina in November even if it isn't sanctioned!
I can't wait to see how you do vs Carolina Kat, SCDD. Best of luck the rest of the season.
Boo!
That is all!
Nationals will be nuts!
...and I will be in my civies eating funnel cake. MWA HA HA HA HA!!!!
Gonna be some awesome derby! Good luck, all.
P.S. CCRG totally aced the mustache rankings.
Lake Woebegone Effect
Yes, leave it to a guy in Minnesota to remind people that, in general, people will believe that they are all above average.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_woebegone_effect
This isn't a criticism of any one team, mind you. Just keep it in mind when judging your own team with the competition.
Playing regionals
Western regionals were tough, but the teams that made it, made it and I'm excited to see them all play at Nationals. It sucks not gettin to play, but I'll be there, notepad and beer in hand.
Western regionals was an amazing experiance, and all I can say is that I'm superduper happy to be a part of a sport that is growing and reinventing itself for every bout I play.
Smart, hard and fast...
Good attitude.
In fact, so good, I'd forgive you if you said it twice.
Two things to consider...
One, it doesn't seem that the recent close bout between Bay Area and Texas hasn't been considered. It seems to me that it gives a relative comaprison of the power of the Western cluster to the other regions.
The othing... I'm kind of sad that there's no "up and coming" or "almost made it's" on the list this time. I can think of a couple leagues that could have been in the top 25, and I've curious why they aren't.
"On the radar"
It'll be back. This month, we just ran out of steam. As has been mentioned earlier in comments, Steel City was the notable "radar" team right this second, but I suspect a lot of teams will take their their tourney experience to heart over the next few months (as Denver, in particular, did in this past year).
"Radar"
Steel City is definitely up there, but I was also thinking of Burning River. They had two extremely close bouts with #22 Brew City, and in fact held a good lead on them through most of their regionals matchup, before falling in overtime. They played closer to them than North Star did, who did make it on the Rankings.
So, maybe next month you can give Burning River some love. ;)
20-30
My sense is that the teams in the 20-30 range are way closer together than 1-10 or 10-20. Which is unfortunate because the way the rankings work there's a very large cleave between 25 and 26.
I think that many of the teams being mentioned here would be on the power rankings if it were expanded to thirty, but to entertain that possibility would be a slippery slope.
I think you're crazy
But, I guess we'll find out for sure in Nov.
Cincy and the Arch Rivals
Wouldn't those teams in the top 25 be considered "up and coming"? At least Cincinnati from what I've seen of their play.
for a fleeting second...
Its amazing how fast a team falls out of favor around here but i suppose the above argument from Shattered regarding the fleeting nature of these positions is important to consider. I guess that four months at 25 was a good run. That being said, although Steel City did look very impressive in my opinion, Providence came out of Eastern Regionals ahead of them in 6th place. Our first round draw, if you remember, was Gotham.
Quote form DNN September Power Rankings:
"Providence gets arguably the toughest draw in the whole tournament cycle when they have to meet #1 Gotham in their very first bout at Easterns."
Granted we did lose by 156, but considering other teams' massive losses at their hands (including one triple digit loss by Philly at last year's nat'ls, another by Carolina this summer and two by Boston (#6) this year), I don't feel too bad about it. Obviously these are all great teams who I respect highly.
Providence was 1-2 for the tournament but did manage to exit the tournament ranked right behind Carolina (a perennial nationals contender). Since we haven't played them yet I dont know how Providence would fair against an Arch Rival or a Brew City, but I do know that we beat Atlanta (24th) just over a year ago.
Congratulations to all the teams in Nationals this year. I am dying to see how this all plays out in November...at sea level.
Fo' Shizzy Borden
Providence Roller Derby
Yay Dallas!!!
Yay Dallas!!!
I have to agree...
...with Fo'Shizzy Borden. Of course, being on Providence as well, that's likely not much of a surprise. But we are ranked 6th in the east, which by simple math would put us at 24th at worst. I understand that's not how Power Rankings are decided, but I believe the East to be one of toughest regions in the Nation. I know there is an arguement for the West as well, but whichever you go with, that should still put us at or above 24th. The Eastern Region has 3 teams in the top 6! In fact, the West doesn't even debut until the 5th spot. But all in all, the West stands with 1 more team in the top 10 than the East; however, that 11th spot goes to an Eastern team. Seems pretty even to me, and the fact that we fall just 2 spots below that team in the East makes me skeptical that we should rank less than 25th in the Nation. I know we haven't had many opportunities to play teams further West yet. I guess we'll have to find a way to make that happen, because I truly feel we deserve to be on the PR... somewhere.
Just sayin'.
Above all, congratulations to the 25 teams who did make the Power Rankings! I wouldn't be able to choose a team to replace there, as they've all done amazing things these past weeks and all season. I guess it'll be up to us to prove our deservedness. 2010!!!
xo
~Baby Fighterfly
No offense
Your logic is crazy!
The difference between the 5th and 6th team in one region can be huge. Just because you have the big dogs in your region doesn't make you a big dog by proximity.
I think people say the west is a tough region because there is a large number of teams that could beat each other on any given day, not that we are better than the other regions.
Western Regionals
Was awesome! Wish I could make it to Philly for nationals, but maybe next year if my team makes it! :P
Lets find out how they'd do against a Brew City...
Brewcity officially invites Providence to find out how they'd do against a Brew City or an Arch Rival. We have a few openings this summer and the ability to do a low production game on any given Sunday morning.
Contact me through the WFTDA board if you are up to it.
Consider yourselves slapped with a stinking wristguard...
Grace Killy
Interleague Co-Coordinator
Brewcity Bruisers