Well, last month Rose also lost to #5 Bay Area by a mere 29 points. Rose rose based on that result, but Angel City rose even higher by beating Rose.
Regarding Charm City, I'd guess that their big loss against #6 Philly in March has something to do with keeping them down, but I do agree that they should perhaps get at least a small bump up from the close Angel City loss.
So what's the argument against dropping Bay Area down to Rose's rank from that result? Then Angel wouldn't have also risen as high, and the discrepancy between Angel-Charm and Angel-Rose would've been less.
Has DNN abandoned the "Who would beat whom" metric in favor of a "What would sort of fit but have the least movement" metric"?
Indeed. How does Rose lose to a lower ranked team and climb three spots?
Well, last month Rose also lost to #5 Bay Area by a mere 29 points. Rose rose based on that result, but Angel City rose even higher by beating Rose.
Regarding Charm City, I'd guess that their big loss against #6 Philly in March has something to do with keeping them down, but I do agree that they should perhaps get at least a small bump up from the close Angel City loss.
Wasatch lost to Rose by 160, Rose lost to Angel by 46, and Houston lost to Angel by 169. Not necessarily saying that they should replace Wasatch, but I'd definitely put them in consideration before the "Duke-Santa Cruz" range of teams, especially after their performance over Duke this weekend (a 261pt victory).
1) Four years ago, when we first built the Power Rankings tools, at least a couple teams that weren't WFTDA members were clearly capable of contending -- particularly San Diego (which spent several months ranked) and LADD.
2) We didn't have the foresight to imagine top men's and women's teams meeting up.
3) Gnosis' time was much less pressed, so the idea that he'd need to sink some of it into tweaking a W/L from time to time didn't seem like a huge thing. To be frank, it'd probably take him less than half an hour, but we don't want to take a second of his attention away from the bigger project, which will include a fix for this in its scope and will be complete in a not horribly large amount of time.
I'm not sure I follow the triangulations that bring Rose up 3 places, but keeps Charm City ranked at 14, when Charm only lost by a single jam against Angel City.
Does DNN really think Charm would lose to Montreal, Minnesota, London and Windy City? Teams that Charm beat (directly or indirectly, i.e. tournament) the last time they met?
Not today. The fix is a non-trivial piece of coding that only Gnosis can do, and it's being rolled into a bigger project he's actively working on right now. Fruits of that labor will be live in a single-digit number of weeks.
Our sincere apologies to Minnesota! We hope you'll bear with us. New goodness coming.
There will be two more games this weekend, and another two in a month at Brewhaha, but as of the morning of May 4, Minnesota is 0-1, not 0-2. The system still seems to be counting a bout against Your Mom back in January.
Other teams who may well be on a trajectory towards future rankings fame, fortune and riches include a cluster of teams around what was once the West: Sin City, Sac City and Duke City. Dust Devil was kind to all of them, and while it's hard to know exactly where they are in relation to the rest of the derby world at the moment, we think they're definitely heading in the right direction and will be keeping a very close eye on their games.
I sent a submission/update last week...
Atlanta's next game is against Tampa in a closed bout on May 17th.
Then Tampa plays Ohio May 18th (closed bout) immediately followed by Atlanta v. Ohio (public bout).
Well, last month Rose also lost to #5 Bay Area by a mere 29 points. Rose rose based on that result, but Angel City rose even higher by beating Rose.
Regarding Charm City, I'd guess that their big loss against #6 Philly in March has something to do with keeping them down, but I do agree that they should perhaps get at least a small bump up from the close Angel City loss.
So what's the argument against dropping Bay Area down to Rose's rank from that result? Then Angel wouldn't have also risen as high, and the discrepancy between Angel-Charm and Angel-Rose would've been less.
Has DNN abandoned the "Who would beat whom" metric in favor of a "What would sort of fit but have the least movement" metric"?
Indeed. How does Rose lose to a lower ranked team and climb three spots?
Well, last month Rose also lost to #5 Bay Area by a mere 29 points. Rose rose based on that result, but Angel City rose even higher by beating Rose.
Regarding Charm City, I'd guess that their big loss against #6 Philly in March has something to do with keeping them down, but I do agree that they should perhaps get at least a small bump up from the close Angel City loss.
Who's voting on the Power Rankings these days?
Also, for completeness, Hanson and Van Horne were alternates for DRD, and Shiver Me Kimbers was alternate for MNRG; none skated.
The rosters above are reversed. Cathey, Adams, Quigley, etc. skate for Denver, and Fannie Tanner, Second Hand Smoke, Medusa, etc. skate for Minnesota.
Indeed. How does Rose lose to a lower ranked team and climb three spots?
Can I "like" Muffin's status? Jus sayin!
Wasatch lost to Rose by 160, Rose lost to Angel by 46, and Houston lost to Angel by 169. Not necessarily saying that they should replace Wasatch, but I'd definitely put them in consideration before the "Duke-Santa Cruz" range of teams, especially after their performance over Duke this weekend (a 261pt victory).
COURTEOUSLY EXPRESSED, IT'S AN OUTRAGE I TELL YOU!!!
Is windy city sliding 5 places while winning, while rose loses and jumps up...hmm
They seem awfully low to me, especially with where they are ranked in wftda's system. Their only loss a one pointer on the road at no coast?
1) Four years ago, when we first built the Power Rankings tools, at least a couple teams that weren't WFTDA members were clearly capable of contending -- particularly San Diego (which spent several months ranked) and LADD.
2) We didn't have the foresight to imagine top men's and women's teams meeting up.
3) Gnosis' time was much less pressed, so the idea that he'd need to sink some of it into tweaking a W/L from time to time didn't seem like a huge thing. To be frank, it'd probably take him less than half an hour, but we don't want to take a second of his attention away from the bigger project, which will include a fix for this in its scope and will be complete in a not horribly large amount of time.
I'm not sure I follow the triangulations that bring Rose up 3 places, but keeps Charm City ranked at 14, when Charm only lost by a single jam against Angel City.
Does DNN really think Charm would lose to Montreal, Minnesota, London and Windy City? Teams that Charm beat (directly or indirectly, i.e. tournament) the last time they met?
http://coloradosports.tv/sports/rocky-mountain-rollergirls/bouts/2013-05...
...why did the system ever count non-sanctioned bouts in the first place?
Not today. The fix is a non-trivial piece of coding that only Gnosis can do, and it's being rolled into a bigger project he's actively working on right now. Fruits of that labor will be live in a single-digit number of weeks.
Our sincere apologies to Minnesota! We hope you'll bear with us. New goodness coming.
There will be two more games this weekend, and another two in a month at Brewhaha, but as of the morning of May 4, Minnesota is 0-1, not 0-2. The system still seems to be counting a bout against Your Mom back in January.
For those who understand, no explanation is necessary.
...that doesn't make it from the notes into the actual words. Fixed now.
Other teams who may well be on a trajectory towards future rankings fame, fortune and riches include a cluster of teams around what was once the West: Sin City, Sac City and Duke City. Dust Devil was kind to all of them, and while it's hard to know exactly where they are in relation to the rest of the derby world at the moment, we think they're definitely heading in the right direction and will be keeping a very close eye on their games.
You left out Santa Cruz.
I sent a submission/update last week...
Atlanta's next game is against Tampa in a closed bout on May 17th.
Then Tampa plays Ohio May 18th (closed bout) immediately followed by Atlanta v. Ohio (public bout).
I think there will be text casts for those games.
And the amazing DVS.
Posted this on the wrong writeup. Derp derp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14tEzrezYZI
Yep, you're right. I was so psyched to get the link I just put it on the first "Charm" recap I saw. :D
I think you meant to put that here: http://www.derbynewsnetwork.com/2013/04/15_charm_city_pinches_19_boston_...