ECE 2009 Sunday Preview
10:30am -- Burning River vs. Brewcity: Cleveland's Burning River will be coming off a Saturday bout against DC, while Milwaukee's Brewcity will have just faced Minnesota.
Tournament implications: Depending on what happens on Saturday, this bout could very easily amount to a play-in bout for the North Central tournament. Both teams are currently officially ranked by WFTDA just outside of the cutoff for tournament invites, with Burning River sitting at NC #11 and Brewcity at #12. Both seem likely to bump up based on previous performance in this quarter, with Burning River having almost surprised NC #4 Cincinnati in April (107-93) and Brewcity having come similarly close to NC #5 Arch Rival (81-70), in addition to having squeaked by NC #8 North Star 92-91 this month.
11am -- Ohio vs. Montreal: Ohio plays their single game of the weekend against the irrepressible crew from north of the border on Sunday. The Columbus girls have had a pretty rough time of it over their relatively long existence, going 6-15 in their 21 WFTDA-sanctioned bouts, and just barely winning in their triumphs. With the exception of two +100 point blowouts over young Gem City, their four other wins have been by 3, 1, 3 and 4 points. Montreal will be coming off a Saturday bout against Atlanta and will be hoping to get out of the weekend with their first -- or second -- WFTDA-sanctioned win.
Tournament implications: Ohio sits 3 spots out of a North Central invite at NC #13, but they did manage to squeak by current NC #10 Naptown in a narrow 66-62 bout earlier in June. It's hard to imagine them getting past Brewcity and Burning River for that #10 spot, though, both of whom have had more success against the region's top 10. Montreal won't qualify for a tournament invite due to not having played two bouts against their Eastern Region rivals.
12:30pm -- Grand Raggidy vs. Dominion: Both teams here are looking to arrest recent slides. Grand Raggidy was abused by Detroit and Cincinnati earlier this year, losing both bouts by over 100 points; Dominion suffered equally rough treatment at the hands of DC and Atlanta.
Tournament implications: Grand Raggidy very much needs at least one victory this weekend to stay in the tournament hunt; there are about seven teams battling for the bottom four spots in their fluid North Central region. Dominion, currently officially at #10 in the East, probably has to win impressively in both weekend games to get in to the East Regional. They've already lost big to East #12 DC, 159-35, and will face East #11 Connecticut on Saturday.
1pm -- DC vs. Fort Wayne: After a rough start to their interleague action, DC has strung two wins together for the first time with a narrow 90-83 win over Dutchland in March and a 159-35 romp over Dominion in April. Fort Wayne is 4-2 in their 2009 action, but their wins have been mostly over lowly ranked teams.
Tournament implications: DC, sitting at #12 in the East Region, needs an impressive showing in both bouts this weekend to jump past East #11 Connecticut for the last tournament slot (they've already taken care of the #10 slot with the win over Dominion.) Fort Wayne's fate is not entirely in their hands, as they sit at #9 in their North Central region but recently narrowly lost to NC #10 Naptown. A bad weekend would probably drop them out of the region's top ten, and a good one would still leave their seeding contingent on the fortunes of their regional rivals.
2:30pm -- Connecticut vs. Minnesota: Minnesota has two bouts against rapidly improving teams this weekend (the first is against BrewCity on Saturday). While Minnesota would have to be considered favorites in both, a couple of upsets aren't outside the realm of possibility. Connecticut demonstrated very smart strategic play in a big win over WFTDA newbies Suburbia in a 124-38 rout last weekend, and is clearly itching to keep their star rising.
Tournament implications: Two losses for Minnesota this weekend would be extremely detrimental for their tournament hopes, but the out-of-region Connecticut bout is less of a direct problem. Connecticut is basically in a dogfight with DC for the East #10 spot, and while their Saturday bout with Dominion is the most direct comparison point with DC, a good and/or successful showing against Minnesota would bolster their case.
3pm -- Atlanta vs. #21 Cincinnati: Atlanta has long been hovering just outside of the unofficial DNN top 25 Power Rankings, and this bout presents a golden opportunity to bust into them. Cincinnati will be coming off what is likely to be a very tough bout against #2 Windy City on Saturday, and the question will be whether they perform better against a less experienced team or whether the Saturday match leaves them with little left for the Dirty South.
Tournament implications: Both teams are pretty much locks to get into their respective tournaments here -- Atlanta is at South Central #5 and Cincy at North Central #4. For Cincy, this weekend is mostly about staying ahead of #5 NC Arch Rival, who have a good case for moving up after a big out-of-region upset of DNN's national #12, Duke City.
4:30pm -- #19 Madison vs. Tampa Bay: Tampa Bay, like Ohio, is only playing one bout this weekend. They'll probably have their hands full with Madison, though. Though TBDD was victorious in the mostly non-WFTDA Sunshine Skate tournament in February -- the unofficial Florida State Championship -- they have been on an 0-3 skid in WFTDA sanctioned action, most recently going down 165-82 to Dallas. Madison will be coming off a bout against Kansas City and is a team known for having no mercy when they have the advantage -- at last year's ECE, they put up the biggest point margin with a 250-38 pummeling of Fort Wayne.
Tournament implications: Probably not serious on either side. Madison is definitely going to the North Central tourney, as they sit at NC #3 and only some highly unexpected outcomes would move them up or down. Tampa is at #8 in the South Central, but SC #9 Assassination City and SC #10 No Coast don't have the scalps that would raise them over Tampa given this weekend's events.
5pm -- #2 Windy City vs. #8 Boston: The highest-level bout of the Sunday action finds the second place team of 2008 Nationals going up against a Boston team that has prospered from educational losses to top-flight teams in 2009. While Boston went down to #1 Gotham, #3 Philly and #7 Charm City this year, it was clear that they'd learned from their experiences when they hung tough with #4 Texas for almost an entire bout before falling out of striking distance. Without a doubt, Windy City is the favorite here -- but an upset is by no means out of the realm of possibility.
Tournament implications: Really, not too many with this one. Boston is pretty much certain to land at either #4 or #5 in the East depending on the outcome of their Saturday battle with Carolina, while Windy City has already staked a solid claim to #1 in the North Central by defeating #2 NC Detroit. A win here for Boston would give them a lot of confidence going into the tough Eastern Regional tournament, while Windy City would solidify their national position by turning away the Boston threat.
6:30pm -- #9 Carolina vs. #14 Detroit: This match will end up being a rematch of the third-place bout of the 2007 Regionals, where Detroit trailed for most of the bout but made a serious run in the end at Carolina before losing by 10 points. That was some time ago in the quick evolution of derby, though. While Detroit sits higher in their respective region than Carolina does, this bout could very well be a toss-up.
Tournament implications: Ranking wise, this is a mirror image of the previous Windy City / Boston bout, with both teams more or less locked in to whatever regional ranking they had entering -- and both teams likely to draw regional-tournament confidence from a win over the other.
7pm -- #3 Philly vs. #18 Kansas City: See DNN's Feature Preview.
Additional reporting: Chairman Meow


Comments
No Regional shot for Ohio?
(Yes, this post is for fun and not intended to be rank and file serious)
I don’t pretend to be as up on all the teams as you all at DNN but that seems a bit premature. It seems to me Burning River is being ranked at their current position due to the close loss at Cincinnati. Head to head as I recall Ohio BEAT Burning River by 2 last year. So if we count losses for more than wins, Ohio lost to Cincinnati last Saturday 100-49 (and was winning for 2/3 of the first period before the wheels came off) while Grand Raggidy lost by more than 100 points just weeks earlier. Thus using the same ranking logic, Ohio jumps over Grand Raggidy and also jumps Naptown and Fort Wayne by virtue of the victory over Naptown, who beat Fort Wayne. Thus your North Central rankings could logically look like this:
1) Windy City
2) Detroit
3) Mad Rollin Dolls
4) Cincinnati
5) Arch Rival
6) Minnesota
7) Brew City (beat North Star)
8) North Star
9) Ohio (Burning River)
10) Burning River (Ohio)
11) Grand Raggidy/ Naptown?
And so on.
Of course that could all change on the Brew City/ Burning River match at ECE and what Grand Raggidy does as well. While its a lot of fun to debate the top 25 rankings and all, for teams like Ohio, which have not had a lot of success until recently, its fun for us to hash out scenarios in which we might be able to enjoy us some Minnesota weather! Give us some lovin people,lol!
Best of luck to all at ECE and lets get through the weekend with a lot of fun derby with no serious injuries!
Come no matter what.
We love some Ohio up here. Caravan with Cincy and Burning River; we'd love to have an entire section of Ohio derby elite.
Detroit spoils DNN's rankings
Nice work Detroit! That was a great bout for both teams, but #14 Detroit upsets #9 Carolina making DNN 4/5 for Sunday and 9/11 overall! Considering Carolina beat Boston, but Boston did so well against Windy City (and all that stuff with Texas's trip to the Northeast last week... and all the other data points from this weekend), I think DNN's next rankings will provide no shortage of discussion. Good luck with that!
And thanks again for the amazing coverage.
The more things change, the more they stay the same
After this weekend's slate of bouts it appears nothing has really changed at the top. The elite 4 are still Gotham, Texas, Philly and Windy City. The same as last year. No one has succesfully challenged the BIG FOUR. Charm City is almost there but not quite.
The learning curve from very good to elite is Steep. Just ask Boston. A 2-6 record looks underwhelming at first until you realize that all 6 of those losses were Gotham, Texas, Philly, Windy City, Charm City and Carolina.
All teams ranked in DNN's top ten. And DNN's are the ONLY rankings that matter,IMHO.
So,the real excitement begins with the sorting out of teams ranked 5-14.
And the great mystery out west. Is Oly this year's dark horse? And Denver, my choice for this year's most improved team, so far. Just thinking about this makes my brain hurt.
Good Luck, DNN, trying to sort this inscrutable donnybrook out. And try to get some sleep the next few days.
Last year...
More on, for fun on your NC rankings...
If you are gonna go back to last year... Grand Raggidy beat Burning River by 54 in Nov, Ohio by 76 in June and Brew by 113 in May. I TOTALLY agree all 3 are on the rise and we are all different teams in 2009. Both OH teams each lost to Cinci by less more recently - we hosted Cinci in February 2009 and lost by 32. In May, we were unable to take our main 2 jammers on that trip (scheduling), which hurt us dramatically - especially considering we are a small team, never able to field a bench of of 14. We also lost to MNRG by only 10 on 4/25.
And I am digging North Star, but they only played Brew, Ohio, Omaha and Sioux. Yes they've done well, but they are lower ranked NC teams. And they get 8?
And Biker Dave, love ya, but Pushy played for Fort Wayne, and we still came out ahead :)
Jackie Daniels
Grand Raggidy Roller Girls | Grand Rapids, MI